How GOOD was Octillery ACTUALLY? – History of Octillery in Competitive Pokemon

Octillery become my favorite after playing sword and shield and running the towers and getting bodied by an npc using moody octillery

how good was mimikyu actually?

Favorite memory of Octillery is getting Kamehameha’d by Alpha Octillery in Legends Arceus

6:19 ah yes, golurk, the best gen 4 nu water type

6:18 ah yes, golurk, my favorite water type to use in gen 4 nu

YES FINALLY

5:54
Wave Incense?
Wonder why it was that one specificaly, compared to Mystic Water or Splash Plate. Or did they all boost different ammounts?

Starting to think it's high time to remove Moody from the game and give mons like Octillery, Glalie, etc a redemption arc for abilities

Another episode of me asking "How GREAT was Arcanine Actually?"

Great to see a video about my second favorite Gen 2 Pokémon on my birthday.

Still waiting on Scrafty.

I have been waiting for this for a while now thanks

Despite Octillery being basically a mixed water version of Rampardos, I sincerely hope he does get some major defensive boosts and Regen. I really like its design despite how simple it may seem and I always like the idea of an octopus with an artillery and weapons. Octazooka needs a major buff like you stated and I would really love for it to get more utility moves and possibly support moves. Maybe give it Spikes or Toxic Spikes to add to its artillery. You could even slap on Rocks. This would give the man more of an outstanding presence as it's a pure water with Regen and hazards. Not to mention if you give it Flip Turn. We could potentially have a very tanky yet very supportive Regen mon on bulkier or more defensive teams. My hopes of this happening are very slim judging by the attention certain Pokémon get, but it would really make an otherwise passed over mon very exciting and potentially be put in a reasonable tier like RU, maybe even higher.

"Smash / Pass" teams, heh. I'd smash.

This isn't BLAZIKEN! Where is BLAZIKEN!? BLAZIKEN PLEASE. BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! PLEASE! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! BLAZIKEN! NOW!

Hey FSG,
It‘s time for Blastoise, right?
Maybe you need more time…

Idea for a discussion video. How much would you need to buff untiered pokemon to make them good? Going over a handful of different pokemon could be interesting

Addendum: Octillery has a small niche in DPP ZU as a Water-type wall breaker, but it’s largely outclassed by plenty of other strong Water types like Kingler, Walrein, and the recently banned Lapras.
Octillery has a more solid niche in BW ZU, where special and physical sets can wreak havoc on bulky and slow teams relying on Eviolite cores. The change to BW and introducing a new tier saved Octillery from being truly Untiered.
Octillery has a small niche in ORAS ZU as a Trick Room attacker. It’s fallen out of the metagame because of the presence of much stronger and faster Water types like Simipour, Politoed, Frogadier, and Shell Smash Huntail. Water Spout finally sees good use on TR teams.
Octillery has no niche in SM ZU. Trick Room has better choices of breakers like Marowak. Silvally-Water and better other water types, and the general power creep keep Octillery out of the metagame.
Octillery has no niche in current SS ZU. Although there are fewer total Pokémon than the previous generation, the smaller size of tiers has increased the level of power creep. It’s a poor choice of Water type compared to Qwilfish, Poliwrath, and Cramorant, which are more consistent choices for the bulky Balance metagame.
Octillery had an okay niche in pre-DLC2 ZU, where it was a slow wall breaker and Trick Room attacker. However, it was threatened by popular Pokémon like Pikachu and Grookey, which interfered with both its wall breaking and Trick Room sets. Octillery completely fell out of the metagame when the Crown Tundra transformed the tier.
For a small happy ending: Octillery does arguably have a niche in SS Subzero Used! It can reprise its Trick Room breaker set, and its resistances or neutrality to common priority like Kabutops and Carracosta’s Aqua Jets or Abomasnow’s Ice Shard make it a great partner to Marowak. Musharna, Gourgeists, and Carbink make great partners on this style of offense.

Seeing as Octillery's attack stat is more or less entirely unused i'd personally lower it's base attack by 30 and then give 15 base stats to each of it's defenses, maybe raise it's base hp to 80 just as a little top off. This would make it's new stat distribution 80 HP, 75 ATK, 90 DEF, 105 SP. ATK, 90 SP. DEF, 45 SPE. I think this gives it a chance at actually tanking hits which it needs with it's low speed.

Moving on to Octazooka i think it having a chance to lower accuracy is probably the reason why it hasn't been buffed, as anything that alters accuracy or evasion easily becomes very strong. That said however, you could probably boost Octazooka's Base Power to somewhere between 80 and 100 (maybe 105 to match it's SP. ATK stat just for fun) without it being too much of a problem and if you wanna take it one step further, you could also make it a spread move for doubles, as Bazookas (or well more specifically their rockets) are well known for their explosive radius making it a thematic fit. Now Muddy Water has been used on occasion in VGC on mons like Milotic exactly for it's accuracy dropping powers, so a potentially even stronger version of that move is perhaps a bit scary, but with it being limited to Octillery a pokemon that is much weaker than Milotic, i don't think it'll necessarily become an actual issue.

For additional extra thematic flavoring, you could also make it so that using Lock On before Octazooka not only guarantees it hits, but also guarantees it crits. With Lock On essentially turning the Octazooka into a "heat seeking" missile. I think that's a fun little idea and not one that should be very likely to be all that useful and therefore a potential balancing problem.

It really does suck when Gamefreak creates an iconically cool Pokémon but never gives it anymore love

I really like octillary so I have made a couple of adjustments (if it had forms)

Octiallry (f) water/steel
Hp:90
Attack:35
Defense:90
Special attack: 125
Special defense: 90
Speed: 45

Octillary (M) water/ghost

Hp:75
Attack: 125
Defense:75
Sp.atk: 45
Sp.def:65
Speed: 100

With the Special attacking octillary I didn't want it fast otherwise its gonna be "water typhlosion" spam waterspout brrrrrrr.

I think the male can get adaptability but the female gets mega launcher/filter and buff octazooka to 85 and put the accuracy to 100.

Just in time before Splatoon 3 ! ^^

Anyways buff Octazooka

My favourite dude

Ah yes: that one pokemon I always consider using in Colosseum before remembering that I appreciate being able to outspeed my opponent or tank them.

6:19 pretty sure you meant Golduck there