How the Pistol Brace Rule Can Double Screw You in Washington State.



Washington Gun Law President, William Kirk, breaks down ATF’s Pistol Brace Rule even further, explaining the important intersection of this new Federal rule and the chain reaction it could cause under Washington law, depending on how you choose to comply with this rule. But understand, that if you choose not to comply with the new ATF rule, you subject yourself to criminal liability on both the Federal AND State level. Learn what all of this means to you and arm yourself with education today.
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Applicable Statutes.

RCW 9.41.010.

RCW 9.41.190.
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Applicable Rule:

ATF Final Rule on Stabilizing Braces. ATF 2021R-08F.
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Other Resources:

HUGE WIN on Bump Stocks and What That Means for Pistol Braces.

The One Easy Way Around the Pistol Brace Fiasco.

How Likely Is It That ATF Shows Up to Get Your Pistol?

The HUGE Difference Between Converting a Pistol to a Rifle vs. a Rifle to a Pistol.

All the Terrible Choices the ATF Will Leave You With for Your Pistol Braces.

Check Out our Bullet Point Series.
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Robert B. Dobynes

Can you remove the brace since the buffer tube is a functional part of the pistol?

LesLovesLiberty

I'm sure Oregon, WA & the rest of the tyrant states will ban NFA items entirely like Commiefornia just in time when the rule takes effect.☹️

Jeannie Rhodes

We need more "hometown" updates on Washington voter approved idiots jumping on the "band the assault
weapon sinking ferry boat". I really like and enjoy your intellectual and detailed responces.

hpirs4n1

how do you not have a "Geek out with your Glock out" shirt?

David Gayheart

I'm really glad you made this video, because I've had the following question since I first got into large format pistols. As a Washington resident, is it even technically possible for a SBR to exist under WA law? As you mentioned in the video, WA defines an SBR as being "made from a rife." I.e., if it wasn't a rifle to begin with, it can't be an SBR. You make a good point about how the new ATF rule applies the "intended to be fired from the shoulder" portion of the rifle definition under RCW 9.41.010. But the RCW also defines Pistols as "(26) "Pistol" means any firearm with a barrel less than 16 inches in length, or is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand." Ergo, is it reasonable to argue that my AR pistol with a brace has been and always will be a pistol under WA law?

TL;DR. WA law says ANY FIREARM with a barrel under 16" is a pistol. How does that affect the argument?

mcdradus

so there is really no choice in the matter, if i remove my 10" barrel and install a 16" barrel can i still keep and own my 10" barrel as a seperate "Oh Shit!" item? not installed, just keep in my safe.

DoomGummy

Are AFGs (Angled Foregrips) still legal on AR pistols after the ATF change (assuming you are in the pistol configuration and not an SBR configuration (-i.e. removed brace)), and in regards to local WA gun laws that are up in legislation?

dam00k

This is the only channel I follow for this info. There’s a lot of fear mongers spreading half truths and straight up misinformation for clicks, these guys are the real deal and the local insight on f j Inslee and fergie’s illicit activities is precious. Great information here, appreciate you guys a lot.

Mr NoName

Now is not the time to panic. There will be time for that later.

Chris P

One part that concerns me that I haven't heard discussed much in the new ATF rule is the part about either putting a longer barrel on your AR pistol "or permanently remove and dispose of" the stabilizing brace. How do I permanently remove the brace? I know how to remove the brace but I don't know how to make that removal permanent. Do I weld something on to the pistol buffer tube to prevent any type of brace from going back on there? I don't know how to comply with permanently removing the brace. This is legalese-speak so I suspect all the little words matter.

fiskman7227

Today is Feb 6th, 2023 and we r 37 days into the new year and so far in just Chicago aka Chiraq, 47 people have been shot & killed and 238 shot & wounded and NOT One politician has said a word. Instead they have spent countless days trying 2 disarm the law-abiding-citizens. Where r alllllllll those senator cry babies that supposedly care about gun violence? Trust me people, there behind the mass shootings in hopes to disarm the people. Think Problem, Reaction, Solution.

Maverick Designs

I (thankfully) bought a 16" upper about a year ago so I'll just convert my AR pistol to a rifle. I bought my pistol in WA so I fully expect to be on Page 1 of Sideshow Bob's "bad guy" list.

Michael Smith

This is getting too confusing, that's why I sold mine over a year ago when this crap first started coming out. I'm an old man now and just didn't want to hassle with these Communists in Olympia anymore.

Lone Wolf

I’m gonna charge my upper?

John Grady

How do you prove to the ATF that you have destroyed your weapon if you choose that choice?

Marcell Hilliard

"CAN WE GET NEW INFORMATION ON THE 10-ROUND MAGAZINE BAN INJUNCTION?????? WTF? December 23 – 24 came and went! January 23 – 24 came and went! February 23 – 24 is coming!!!!! The year 2023 has come! The year 2024 is coming!

Brian Frantz

Loved the middle finger to registration.

Marcus Jones

This whole thing has to be a concerted effort, right? I mean, all these AWBs coming up right as the ATF just decided to change pistol braces again has to be deliberate, right? Especially since it's all coming up in spite of Bruen.

Jon Doe

Spend the same $200 on a 16 inch upper. Dont send it to the feds

Gerry Miller

Thank you for your insightful videos.

Roland Larson

Atf has no power of a free America

Peter Goyer

Thank you William. The explanation is scary and it is past time to abolish the ATF, and hold the politicians accountable for their attacks on our constitutional rights.

Sheila Gibson

Don't these people have better things to do?

ANGELofD3ATH5

F the Government!

Devin Russell

A natural disaster of cataclysmic proportions,will strike the west coast;it is not just the extreme Liberalism,socialism,& Communism that people are fleeing from.There have been people who had nightmarish dreams and visions;of a series of natural & man made disasters that will all converge into one,and becomes a natural disaster of cataclysmic proportions,so they are fleeing as far east as they can;and have been warning & urging as many people as they possibly can,to do the same but so far;their warnings have been falling upon deaf ears,so they are leaving anyway while also saying to all of the people who have chosen to remain arrogant & ignorant to the immediate & imminent danger that they are all putting themselves in,if they choose to stay instead of fleeing: "dont say that we didn't warn you all,of the impending & imminent cataclysm when it suddenly and inevitably strikes without warning".

Jeff Broders

Commifornia bans all NFA items removing one option.

Johnny Smith

You will be in the Cross Bar Hotel dating horny Bubba Big D. What a Great Country where you had a right!

Johnny Smith

The US Government is a Criminal Cartel! Just like the Mafia. the Government is going to Destroy your Life, Steal your Property, Money, and Rights!!

No Matter who is in Charge… the People Lose! Cut the Government & Hold the Government Criminals Accountable to win again! Support the Freedom Caucus!

The Government Party… Yee Haw… Where did all the money go? Where did my Standard of Living Go? Phoof… just like your "Rights" they are GONE!

The Government, Cops, 3 Letter Agencies, MSM, Big Tech, Big Business, Big Banks all hate Cameras, Truth, Transparency, Accountability, Dogs, the Bill of Rights, and Citizens!

The Sheeple need to take a hard Look at the REAL Enemy… the Government! They steal your Privacy, Freedom, Liberty, money, property, rights, dignity, and your future!

You are NOTHING but TAX CHATTEL!

Wake Up Sheeple… you are not Free! It is all an Illusion to keep you under control! That should make you so proud… stand up tall and march down Main Street Waving Old Glory and singing the Star Spangled Banner! Baaa Baaa Baaa

According to Our Government: Spying, Violence, Lying, Extortion, Theft, Murder, & Corruption of Any Kind is Unacceptable in our Society… Unless the Spying, Violence, Lying, Extortion, Theft, Murder, & Corruption is Perpetrated by the Government!

The Beatings Will Continue… Until Your Compliance Improves… the Government wants good Obedient Slaves! Privacy, Freedom, & Liberty is VERBOTEN!

The Government hates Free Thinking & Critical Thinking! Back the Blue and get your Beating Too!

The Cops/Government has a POLICY and NO Accountability… You pesky citizens have the LAWS and Just-Us!

The laws are NOT made to protect the pesky citizens. They are made to protect the lawmakers, enforcers, and bureaucrats from the pesky citizens.

Has anyone else noticed… every time the Government passes a Law… the People Lose their Quality of Life, Money, Privacy, Liberty, and Rights while the Ruling Masters become wealthier?

Ronald Reagan – We Don’t have inflation because We are living too well. We have it because the Government is living too well.

When does the US Constitution and Bill of Rights Kick in? Where is the Accountability? When do I get the FREEDOM? When will the Government leave me alone and take their hands out of my pocket?

Moe Drama

I think to comply with this long is it gonna lead to another loss of another one of our rights the constitution was built for us to keep us safe from the government tyranny, so if y’all can apply to this what’s the next thing is that the Constitution as they gonna dishabille

Todd Quaale

Thank you for your information. I appreciate all your videos. I live in Oregon but I love Washington state and obviously we need to know what’s going on in our neighboring states. Anyway thank you.

Scinan Isern

How about I just take off the brace?

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Anybody have a clue where non nfa others fall into this? Can we just take the brace off as well?

Pterodactyl

Inslee and Ferguson are traitors. Deal. They willfully violate the oath of office and United States Constitution. They need to be dealt with accordingly.

jacob manalang

can we just go back to the round tube with foam. wouldnt that get around it?

Stephen Welch

100%

Dodge City

The two or three people in the US who consider turning them in should just sell them to a ffl.