Prohibited Speech: What constitutes "INCITEMENT" under the law?



What constitutes “incitement” under the First Amendment? When is speech so violent and dangerous that it can be prohibited by the government? In this special free speech series with the National ACLU, TalksOnLaw explores the limits of speech.

Lee Rowland is a senior staff attorney with the ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project. She has served as lead counsel in numerous federal First Amendment cases.

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We all know the First Amendment protects almost all speech. But when does speech cross the line into something that’s unprotected, like incitement to violence?

My name is Lee Rowland. I’m a free speech attorney with the National ACLU, and we’re going to talk about the law of incitement.

The First Amendment to the US constitution by default protects almost every bit of speech that we can engage in, but there are a few areas where speech crosses the line into something that’s considered violent or criminal. One of those areas is incitement. “Incitement to violence” is a term that refers to speech that creates an immediate risk of harm to another person. It’s kind of like a threat, except it’s done through another person. Which is to say, rather than threaten you directly with harm, I suggest to another person, “Why don’t you hurt her?” Under the First Amendment, it’s an extremely high bar before speech can be criminalized as incitement. But unless and until there is an immediate and serious risk to a specific identifiable person, that speech can’t be made criminal consistent with our First Amendment.

A tour of the Supreme Court’s history with incitement law provides a beautiful illustration of what we mean when we say that the First Amendment is indivisible. It applies equally to, say, a white supremacist and a racial justice advocate. I want to talk about two cases that have hit the Supreme Court just to illustrate the breadth of speech that is covered by the First Amendment.

The seminal case in which the Supreme Court set this incredibly high bar for what speech becomes and can constitute incitement is called Brandenburg. And even until today, lawyers often refer to the incitement doctrine as the “Brandenburg Test.” Brandenburg was a man who was a literal leader of the KKK, and at a Klan rally, he expressed the kind of hateful and disgusting racism you would expect from a Klan leader. And as part of his speech, he basically fantasized and encouraged generalized violence against black Americans. He was charged with incitement, and his case made it all the way up to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court determined that Mr. Brandenburg had not committed incitement, because there was no particular individual he was suggesting be harmed, he didn’t create a plan of action for hurting anyone, he spoke in general and vague terms about an all white future. He also said unbelievably hateful and disgusting things about black people as you might expect from a leader of the KKK. But at no point, the Supreme Court ruled, did his speech, did his words become an immediate roadmap for violence against other people.

Brandenburg might be tough to swallow in a vacuum. A nearly all-white Supreme Court saying a KKK leader, of course his speech is protected under the First Amendment. But if you just wait a handful of years, we really get the end of the story of incitement in the next major case, NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware. Even from the title, you probably suspect this is going to be an interesting counterpoint to the Brandenburg case.

In NAACP v. Claiborne, a bunch of white-owned businesses had filed lawsuits against a lion of the civil rights movement named Charles Evers who, at a rally organized by the NAACP, engaged in really powerful rhetoric encouraging people to boycott racist, whites-only businesses. And he said during his speech, “If anybody breaks this boycott, I’ll break your neck.” Now, potential for future violence? Absolutely. Vulgar? Yes. The question is is it protected speech? It went again up to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court looks to Brandenburg and says, we’ve set this incitement bar really high. So high that it protects a KKK leader at a rally suggesting that black people should be killed. Now, we’ve got a civil rights leader at a rally suggesting that at some point, some people’s necks might be wrung. Well, guess what? Charles Evers’ words were protected specifically because the Supreme Court ruled that he fell under the Brandenburg test. The Supreme Court recognizes rightfully that political speech often involves really passionate, sometimes violent rhetoric. And unless and until it creates a specific and immediate roadmap to violence against others, it cannot be criminalized consistent with our First Amendment.

My name is Lee Rowland, and you’re watching TalksOnLaw.

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chester allen

Joe Biden was in the KKK how to hell did he get in to the oval office he’s not the president so how is he in the White House

Eli Nope

The problem is that what is "inciting" is very subjective. What incites one person won't incite another, another thing might do the opposite and incite the one who was previously not incited, while the other is not incited by it. Different people have different opinions. There is no objective way to measure subjective qualities without adding subjective goals or opinions into the mix. Incitement is fundamentally a subjective thing, and will be different from person to person.

I think a lot of this stuff is done on double thinking lines. They want to protect some minorities but not others. Learn to live and let live, otherwise this type of stuff pops up. The solution to hateful speech is peaceful speech, sit down and talk to people whom disagree with you, you don't have to agree with what they are saying, just demonstrate that you actually understand their opinion and position and then communicate your own. Try to find middle ground rather than forcing compliance.

If you don't have to find middle ground, then they don't either.

Gospel British Isles

very clear, well explained and on point. Thank you

Austin

This video really deserves more views.

belle

This is so helpful! Thank you for explaining it very well.

Mark Olsen

Well explained, thank you

SoloClone

So Trump did not incite anything.

Thanks ACLU, never thought I'd say that.

Stephen Gill

The First Amendment does mention the word incite. All speech is free. That is what James Madison meant when he authored it. It was meant to protect speech that you would disagree with.

Canuck 🇨🇦

It does not make sense that KKK hate speech would be considered free speech. That's rediculous. The KKK mission is to incite and complete violent action against specific groups it is well known. Its ststed aims are to disenfranchised black citizens and others. They are armed, they target specific people, they are violent, and anti democratic. They need to be outlawed as a criminal gang with terrorist methods. It needs to happen.. yesterday…

N

Right, so what Trump did was not incitement to violence.

Incitement to insurrection "doesn’t need to meet any test." and is therefore essentially meaningless.

Thank you.

Edited to reflect reply.

Chris Cockrell

the Brandenburg Test and NAACP v. Claiborne. This channel is great. Does the series discuss slander and defamation with free speech? And other exceptions to free speech?

AZ White Snake

Thank you for this information. I am currently fighting my HOA because of a Biden sign which also states, f*** Russia & Trump in small letters. I will be using your references along with Cohen vs California when I email my response. Thanks again and any info is always welcomed.

Dr. Challis

That's not complete free speech because sometimes violence needs to be incited if violence is being done to innocent people through the system

SB ESPN

I disagree with the supreme court then.

BadEconomyOfficial

Right, I am the victim of incitement, speech that are fighting words would be to provoke an illegal response: A good example of this would be, someone yells an insult at someone’s protected class repeatedly and the other person responds violently. The defendant who responded violently would have a case of provocation and claim insanity plea because he lost self control.

ThinkerOnTheBus

Perhaps it is nearly impossible to do so, but by utilizing a broad, undefined term like "road map", the question regarding what constitutes "INCITEMENT" by legal definition has yet to be answered.

Ammar Ibrahim

What is difference between exposing govs and this?

Nail Saggitarius

Thank you very much. This is all I needed to learn about 1st Amendment! Just beautiful!!!

Nail Saggitarius

Good one. Thank you. What if a person tells a lie but he does not know about that it is a lie?

Could you please further elaborate "Immediate and specific roadmap for violence against others"?

Gary Naccarto

Even though I am not lawyer I find law quite an interesting subject.

shyamini krishan

This was a very good explanation of a rather confusing and often unclear topic. Well done.

InternetDoggo483

Very good explanation!

nemolovesyou

This was explained so well. Thank you!

Joel Alden Schlosser

Very helpful—are there more videos like this?

Amanda Lavin

This breaks it down so clearly. 🙌