Many thanks to Lakeland Motor Museum who lent me this incredible car! Not been yet? here’s a link to their website, it’s well worth a visit if you’re a car nut like me:
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Humber 12/25
We’ve looked at a Humber Super Snipe before, but by and large, Humber isn’t a name we’ve covered a lot on idriveaclassic and it’s definitely something we need to remedy, because this is a brand which is not only quality but was once Britain’s second largest car manufacturer, with Wolseley taking the top spot, and claimed with their 1896 range to be the first company to produce a series of production cars.
But cars weren’t always where Humber set their sights and like other car manufacturers, they originally manufactured bicycles. Although the manufacturer was a big West Midlands employer in the early part of the last century, the firm initially began in Beeston in Nottinghamshire and it was growth that led them to set up Coventry premises where 3,000 workers were in place by 1907.
The first car Humber produced was a 3 wheeled tri-car called the Sociable in 1898 and by 1913, they were Britain’s second largest car manufacturer. The profit leaps they made were enormous and in 1905 they reported profits of £16,500 and just two years later it shot up to over £154k.
So where does this bring us to in 1925, the year this Humber was sold?
By 1925, Humber had had a bit of a mixed bag. There were the war years whereby orders from the government had come in thick and fast for things like motorbikes but by the early 1920s, the car manufacturer market had a few more challenges. Names you’ll instantly recognise like Rover, Singer and Riley to name a few had stepped away from bicycles and embraced the growing desire for the motorcar. Here and abroad.
This marked the last decade before Rootes came in and in 1925 Humber acquired Commer, which was done to take market share in the commercial space, but the real changes came into force at the end of the decade whereby talks began for Rootes to buy a share in the business and in 1931, Rootes and Prudential took 60% of the shares in the company. Humber was never independent ever again.
Which means this 12/25 we’re testing today is in the last true era of Humber as a standalone, independent manufacturer, faults and all.
In 1923, Humber introduced the new inlet over exhaust engine in as an 11.4hp model. In 1925, Humber stepped the game up a bit and made improvements to the engine. It now had a capacity of 1795cc which gave it a tax brake horsepower rating of 12 – this was measured from the number of cylinders and engine stroke only but had an engine output of 25 brake horsepower. This gave the car the name of 12/25.
If you’re wondering about the transmission on this, it’s a four speed transmission and this was the only option offered on the car. It’s based around a ladder frame chassis and has leaf sprung suspension and rear drum brakes. Allegedly you can crack 50 miles per hour in this car, but I’d like to be safe and sensible today and I doubt I’ll be hitting that!
If you’re wondering where it sat luxury wise in the market, this was a classed as high quality build car, a car for somebody with money who understood quality and taste in good measure. If you’re wondering how it was priced in comparison to a car you can easily picture in your mind, it was priced in 1926 at £440 for the tourer, which was almost double what Ford were asking for the Model T.
In total, there were 5 styles of coachwork available for these cars, with the four seat tourer accounting for over 50% of total cars sold and other options including the 2/3 seater, the 4 seater, the coupe and With less than 5,000 of these cars ever made, it makes it a true marvel to have it here with us today.
Now before we take a drive out, let’s have a chat with the gentleman who restored this vehicle.
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Magnificent Motor car🥰 built not bought unlike the rubbish they throw together now!
My paternal grandfather worked at "The Humber" in Coventry.
Great stuff! Lovely to see something different and that Humber was a real Gem.
Brilliant to see this lovely car being driven on the road . I don't know if I would show such confidence behind the wheel of it !
Brilliant job on the gears, Steph! An elderly friend let me drive his 29 studebaker roadster, and said I was the only one who didn't grind the gears. But , the pedals were normal, so I bow to you! So glad to see Ken also. I love that we have the chance to document the past, and keep their legacy alive.
Basic motoring requirements; Air-con; 6CD changer; Leather. Well two out of three aint bad . . .
Modern day drivers do not know that their born 🤣 lovely piece of British history
Well done Steph. Another great video. Looking good too 🙂
Necessities for the driver during winter; Fur lined leather jacket. Woollen shawl. Leather motorcycle gloves. Thick woollen socks. Boots. Fur hat with earpieces.
Thank you – it's good to see such a car being used, and even in the rain, rather than just kept indoors. Also interesting to get a take on how different it is to drive from newer cars.
Great to see a true vintage car reviewed
Fantastic, one day you will drive the Isabella too..:)…thanks Steph.
Admiration for driving this Steph. Not many would tackle it. Top video, I learnt quite a bit.
BRILLIANT!!! 😀
Great video Steph, and well done. You made driving it look easy. No fuel gauge ?
Amazing! Wonderful to see, and great to hear a positive, informative view on Pre-War cars. Thanks Steph, love the show!
So glad you’re back doing what you do best. What a drive!
Steph, Another top video! Great and informative presentation. I really appreciate your research that helps solidly place whatever vehicle you are presenting into the broader automotive world.
Humber for many years built luxury cars with a divider panel between the driver and passengers as a way of creating privacy between the chauffeur and the passengers.
Good going! It feels like a kind of tribute to The Queen. One year older than she was… kind of mind-boggling… But the car really ran nicely and you drove it like a champ. Very nice indeed… though less rain had been preferable. Wet and cold…
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻thank you Steph you’ve found your vocation, a most insightful, entertaining and educational experience. There is a whole world of these more elderly vehicles of which I personally know little and I’m sure most of your viewers also, please continue , give us a smattering of them amongst your more ‘modern’ stuff and let’s not let our vital heritage die. Thanks again for a truly wonderful few minutes of escapism.
You were driving down some lovely looking roads too
Beautiful restoration. Well done Sir!
Congratulations! That was truly interesting.
Nice video Steph, a few more like these would be great
I was lucky enough to have a ride in a 1914 model t Ford a few weeks back and the controls were bewildering in that also – fair play to you for even attempting to drive this on camera – great video. The worst part of the model t for me btw was the 2 speed gearbox! First was fine but jumping to second seemed way too high – like 1st to forth in a 4 speeder – this cars 4 speed was probably quite advanced for the time. Keep the vids coming Steph. Maybe another bubblecar?? 🥰
Thank you very much for such a detailed outing in the lovely 12/25 Humber. You mentioned driving this in the 1920s – I have my late father’s first driving licence which was issued to him in 1923 at the age of 15, and he never took a driving test during his whole life! Great review – as always. Thanks again.
Outstanding reviews by a really first rate presenter.
Gorgeous! I noticed the handcrank at the front and as I am not up-to-date on my pre-War cars (that's WWII, youngin's!), I would have thought that on a car like a Humber, it would have had a self-starter as Charles Kettering had developed that invention circa 1916 in the USA at General Motors. But yes, isn't it interesting that this car is near 100-years old which would make it a veritable antique even in the world of antiques in a couple of years, and some of the driving requirements need to be learned. Can you imagine someone in 2122 trying to drive a contemporary new car?!!! Haha, they'd be trying to figure out the stupid "infotainment" and other geegaw nonsense. At least THIS had things that require skills and are of an intriguing challenge!! Simply marvellous, Steph. Thanks!!!!
Nice to see some older classics 👍
Advance/retard and hand throttle and handbrake instead of footbrake which is mixed up with foot throttle and footbrake all with a dash of rain but the wipers are manual and need another hand…………..You made it look easy! Great road test
I think the horsepower rating is based on the bore, not the stroke.
what aobut a mg magnetta za zb or a hansa 1100
The car is neat but the sweet exchange and mutual respect warmed my heart. Lovely people.
Great review Steph ,thanks
More modern than you think it would be. Ain"t that strange?
Should be in a museum.
Edit; oops it is.
I've done over 7000 miles at the wheel of my 1932 Morris Minor two-seater which has a 3-speed crash gearbox, and I still crunch the change every so often. Well done on those decent gear changes. The Minor has a centre throttle from the factory but mine has been converted. Makes it much easier to drive.
What a stunning motor. Absolutely fantastic vid Steph
What an experience to have, such a privilege to drive a nearly 100 year old car. The only part that would have me nervous is the lack of front brakes, I'm not a driver who uses their brakes constantly, I tend to keep my eye on the road an ease off the accelerator but I do like to know they're there.
Great video but a terrifying drive. Your very brave. Keep up the great work